Sumac tan question
Alright, so I have frittered away hours reading various posts and websites on the how too of veg tanning with sumac but...how many sumac leaves shall a gal harvest to be safe for say one medium hide....
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I typically use 1 1/2 to 2 pounds of leaves to every pound of hide (both weights taken when dried).
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Many thanks!!! I am going to the bath house now to weigh the dry sumac as they are turning red on the tree right now - in case I need more.
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Thanks for the info...good to know.I understand the green leaves have more tannin than the red.so my sources say.
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My wife uses the seed heads from the sumac for dye baths they contain tannin also , like wize walnut hulls work as well as the leaves for dyes
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I am bringing this forward .....I hope from this link as I've been talking to Jan ...about sumac tanning and she told me to gather about 3 garbage bags full ....ion the stems green for one hide ....I...
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Wanted to mention that on this sumac hide I just did, I used dried leaves for the soak (soaked for several weeks.) Then, I put the hide in a solution of just sumac berries and water for a couple...
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Good to know Pa..I've dried all mine as I can't start a hide right now .I went out the other day and got another bag full ....so how mu leaves do you typically use .I am kind of trying to judge...
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I cram in about as many leaves as I can, bury the hide in there and then try to remember to move it around now and then, so it doesn't tan too uneven. Seemed to me like the berrys helped things along....
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You dyed Braintan with sumac berries?? Interesting .....what color did you end up with there and what color was the hide when you started the dye process. I know where there are a lot of sumac tops...
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Sumac berrie dye is very dark. Makes brown braintan. This batch had been boiled and used on traps-then I used some of it on the barktan. Simmering the leaves for a new batch of "barktan". I just leave...
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that other post of mine from a coupla winters ago has some pictures of my sumac leaf brew cooking, and i remember distinctly reading on braintan.com that it is rather important NOT to exceed a certain...
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Yes Pa.... it looks very dark ...actually darker then walnut hulls. I am going to have to try to get out and get some soon ...maybe this weekend . I will have to see how things go . I have a ton of...
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I just heated the leaves until that water was steaming good and took them off. Don't know if that is considered steeping or not, but I don't boil the leaves like I do the berries. Of course, I boil...
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sounds like steeping to me!I am pretty darn sure the rust from the traps would absolutely make a darker tan/ dye- it would oxidize in contact with the tannins. I one time accidentally left my metal...
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hayseed,Thanks for your feedback. lol I've been trying to tell him the rust from his traps makes the dye darker...just his other half,weaverpa
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Hey gals.... great to hear you chime in .Hayseed when I asked PA that question above you must have just posted when I posted so I did not see what you said ...you answered my question beautifully . I...
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I have done both stem on and off- the draw back with stem on is they are pokey to my hands, but i just beat them up good in a paper feed sack before getting the leaves wet and pick out the large...
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I'd like to have a elm wood .....tree trunk hollowed out and a heavy beater to pound ....the stems and leaves to crush them ( like what was used to grind corn & other things ) & ...would be...
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Leaf vacuum worked well chopping oak leaves that I collected yesterday.
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